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 Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 1:35 pm Post subject: Rule Changes for 08 |
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FACE MASK
Change: It's no longer a 5-yard penalty for grabbing a face mask. Only a serious face mask grab involving twisting, turning or pulling will be called and assessed 15 yards. When in question, the rule book says it's a foul. Redding's opinion: "Myself and a lot of coaches always felt just grabbing the face mask in and of itself is nothing. It's like grabbing a sleeve. The danger is when the face mask is yanked. It's going to be easier to officiate because we won't have to make a judgment." Potential impact: Irate fans. Get ready for ignorant fans to go crazy when their running back has a hand on his face mask and no flag flies. Be the smart one in your section.
OUT-OF-BOUNDS KICKOFF
Change: When a kickoff goes out of bounds, the receiving team now has the choice to take the ball 30 yards upfield from where it went out or force a re-kick five yards back. Previously, the choices were to get the ball at the 35-yard line or the same re-kick option. Redding's opinion: "This is in place because it takes so much time to set up a kickoff. Last year we saw teams who would rather kick again than take it at the 35. By getting the ball at, say, the 40, that's very good field position. Odds are you aren't going to gain better field position by backing up five yards and kicking over." Potential impact: The importance of good returners increases. Some scrawny kickoff specialist who can't kick the ball down the middle will become the goat of a major game. Maybe then programs will invest more coaching and scholarships on quality kickers.
SIDELINE WARNING
Change: When the ball is in play, no one may be in the restricted area between the sideline and the coaching box or on the field. There's no longer a warning. The first and second strikes are 5-yard penalties; every subsequent infraction is a 15-yard penalty. Redding's opinion: "In the real world, we're going to talk'em back and say, `You're going to cost your team yards.' We're suffering as an industry with too much activity there. A coach on the rules committee agreed and said, `If you officially warned us last year, give us the penalty now.' Potential impact: Beefy trainers everywhere get to become the Get-Back-Guy. This change could cause confusion because everyone's used to a warning. Perhaps officials will exercise common sense in assessing penalties.
INSTANT REPLAY ON KICKS
Change: Field goals will now be reviewable, but only if the ball was lower than the top of the uprights. Redding's opinion: "If you get real high kicks that are close to the uprights, we won't review it. It's just too hard to tell where it crossed that plane. The guy who's got the best look anyway is the guy standing under the goal post, not a camera." Potential impact: Minimal. Redding said there was one missed call on a field goal last year, resulting in this change. The NFL has made the switch, too. Call it the Phil Dawson Rule.
HORSE COLLAR PENALTY
Change: A "horse collar" tackle, where a defender grabs inside the back collar of the shoulder pads to pull a runner down, is now a 15-yard personal foul. The rule does not apply to a runner inside the tackle box or to a quarterback who is in the pocket. Redding's opinion: "Trainers who visited with the rules committee are concerned with injuries to backs and legs when a guy gets whipped to the ground." Potential impact: Minimal. If anything, maybe defenders will be more inclined to make form tackles.
2-FOR-1 CHALLENGES
Change: Coaches get an extra instant replay challenge if his first one is upheld. The maximum number of challenges is two. Previously, coaches had one challenge regardless of whether they were right or wrong. Redding's opinion: "We tell our replay officials, `Let's try to prevent the coach from using his challenge anyway.' But they (coaches) like to have the option available to them to stop the game and review something." Potential impact: Minimal. In theory, the replay booth is reviewing every meaningful close play anyway. Two challenges may give coaches more flexibility in what they challenge and to blow off a little steam. Jon Solomon --
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Good post. Thanks.
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| Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:48 pm Post subject: Re: Rule Changes for 08 |
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| BamaFan425 wrote: | FACE MASK
Change: It's no longer a 5-yard penalty for grabbing a face mask. Only a serious face mask grab involving twisting, turning or pulling will be called and assessed 15 yards. When in question, the rule book says it's a foul. Redding's opinion: "Myself and a lot of coaches always felt just grabbing the face mask in and of itself is nothing. It's like grabbing a sleeve. The danger is when the face mask is yanked. It's going to be easier to officiate because we won't have to make a judgment." Potential impact: Irate fans. Get ready for ignorant fans to go crazy when their running back has a hand on his face mask and no flag flies. Be the smart one in your section.
OUT-OF-BOUNDS KICKOFF
Change: When a kickoff goes out of bounds, the receiving team now has the choice to take the ball 30 yards upfield from where it went out or force a re-kick five yards back. Previously, the choices were to get the ball at the 35-yard line or the same re-kick option. Redding's opinion: "This is in place because it takes so much time to set up a kickoff. Last year we saw teams who would rather kick again than take it at the 35. By getting the ball at, say, the 40, that's very good field position. Odds are you aren't going to gain better field position by backing up five yards and kicking over." Potential impact: The importance of good returners increases. Some scrawny kickoff specialist who can't kick the ball down the middle will become the goat of a major game. Maybe then programs will invest more coaching and scholarships on quality kickers.
SIDELINE WARNING
Change: When the ball is in play, no one may be in the restricted area between the sideline and the coaching box or on the field. There's no longer a warning. The first and second strikes are 5-yard penalties; every subsequent infraction is a 15-yard penalty. Redding's opinion: "In the real world, we're going to talk'em back and say, `You're going to cost your team yards.' We're suffering as an industry with too much activity there. A coach on the rules committee agreed and said, `If you officially warned us last year, give us the penalty now.' Potential impact: Beefy trainers everywhere get to become the Get-Back-Guy. This change could cause confusion because everyone's used to a warning. Perhaps officials will exercise common sense in assessing penalties.
INSTANT REPLAY ON KICKS
Change: Field goals will now be reviewable, but only if the ball was lower than the top of the uprights. Redding's opinion: "If you get real high kicks that are close to the uprights, we won't review it. It's just too hard to tell where it crossed that plane. The guy who's got the best look anyway is the guy standing under the goal post, not a camera." Potential impact: Minimal. Redding said there was one missed call on a field goal last year, resulting in this change. The NFL has made the switch, too. Call it the Phil Dawson Rule.
HORSE COLLAR PENALTY
Change: A "horse collar" tackle, where a defender grabs inside the back collar of the shoulder pads to pull a runner down, is now a 15-yard personal foul. The rule does not apply to a runner inside the tackle box or to a quarterback who is in the pocket. Redding's opinion: "Trainers who visited with the rules committee are concerned with injuries to backs and legs when a guy gets whipped to the ground." Potential impact: Minimal. If anything, maybe defenders will be more inclined to make form tackles.
2-FOR-1 CHALLENGES
Change: Coaches get an extra instant replay challenge if his first one is upheld. The maximum number of challenges is two. Previously, coaches had one challenge regardless of whether they were right or wrong. Redding's opinion: "We tell our replay officials, `Let's try to prevent the coach from using his challenge anyway.' But they (coaches) like to have the option available to them to stop the game and review something." Potential impact: Minimal. In theory, the replay booth is reviewing every meaningful close play anyway. Two challenges may give coaches more flexibility in what they challenge and to blow off a little steam. Jon Solomon --
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I know people are going to disagree, but I personally don't like the new facemask rule. I can see angry mobs right now with this one.
As far as the replay rule, coaches are going to use every advantage they can get, and rightfully so. If I'm a coach I already don't trust the replay officials though because they've proven to be complete morons in the past who couldn't get it right (or refuse to get it right IMHO) if their lives depended on it. I could see this new rule benefitting some of the more savvy coaches out there.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:07 pm Post subject: Re: Rule Changes for 08 |
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OUT-OF-BOUNDS KICKOFF
Change: When a kickoff goes out of bounds, the receiving team now has the choice to take the ball 30 yards upfield from where it went out or force a re-kick five yards back. Previously, the choices were to get the ball at the 35-yard line or the same re-kick option. Redding's opinion: "This is in place because it takes so much time to set up a kickoff. Last year we saw teams who would rather kick again than take it at the 35. By getting the ball at, say, the 40, that's very good field position. Odds are you aren't going to gain better field position by backing up five yards and kicking over." Potential impact: The importance of good returners increases. Some scrawny kickoff specialist who can't kick the ball down the middle will become the goat of a major game. Maybe then programs will invest more coaching and scholarships on quality kickers.
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This could play a bigger role than expected. There are more than a handful during the year where a kick is shanked and barely gets inside the 20.
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| Quote: | INSTANT REPLAY ON KICKS
Change: Field goals will now be reviewable, but only if the ball was lower than the top of the uprights. Redding's opinion: "If you get real high kicks that are close to the uprights, we won't review it. It's just too hard to tell where it crossed that plane. The guy who's got the best look anyway is the guy standing under the goal post, not a camera." Potential impact: Minimal. Redding said there was one missed call on a field goal last year, resulting in this change. The NFL has made the switch, too. Call it the Phil Dawson Rule. |
'Sup, 425?
I'm having trouble with this one. If the ball is lower than the top of the uprights, it ought to be obvious whether the kick is good or not.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 2:03 pm Post subject: Re: Rule Changes for 08 |
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I really don't like the change on the face mask rule either. Just too great a chance for serious injury, and more guys will be grabbing up there and just hoping they don't get flagged.
Pirate, I'm with you on the FG rule. If the kick is below the uprightss the guys underneath the posts should get it right 100% of the time.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 2:20 pm Post subject: Re: Rule Changes for 08 |
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| shipley00 wrote: | | BamaFan425 wrote: |
OUT-OF-BOUNDS KICKOFF
Change: When a kickoff goes out of bounds, the receiving team now has the choice to take the ball 30 yards upfield from where it went out or force a re-kick five yards back. Previously, the choices were to get the ball at the 35-yard line or the same re-kick option. Redding's opinion: "This is in place because it takes so much time to set up a kickoff. Last year we saw teams who would rather kick again than take it at the 35. By getting the ball at, say, the 40, that's very good field position. Odds are you aren't going to gain better field position by backing up five yards and kicking over." Potential impact: The importance of good returners increases. Some scrawny kickoff specialist who can't kick the ball down the middle will become the goat of a major game. Maybe then programs will invest more coaching and scholarships on quality kickers.
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This could play a bigger role than expected. There are more than a handful during the year where a kick is shanked and barely gets inside the 20. |
Not to mention the onside kick that is kicked across the field and goes out of bounds at midfield.
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I was thinking the same thing on the kickoff thing. Surely there should be something where the farthest you can have it is at midfield or something. Otherwise onside kicks are gonna become way less common.
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| BamaFan425 wrote: | | I was thinking the same thing on the kickoff thing. Surely there should be something where the farthest you can have it is at midfield or something. Otherwise onside kicks are gonna become way less common. |
Good point.
About the horse collar tackles, I was seeing a lot of those last year and was a little concerned. Especially when they jerk them hard for no reason.
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| CrimsonPirate wrote: | | Quote: | INSTANT REPLAY ON KICKS
Change: Field goals will now be reviewable, but only if the ball was lower than the top of the uprights. Redding's opinion: "If you get real high kicks that are close to the uprights, we won't review it. It's just too hard to tell where it crossed that plane. The guy who's got the best look anyway is the guy standing under the goal post, not a camera." Potential impact: Minimal. Redding said there was one missed call on a field goal last year, resulting in this change. The NFL has made the switch, too. Call it the Phil Dawson Rule. |
'Sup, 425?
I'm having trouble with this one. If the ball is lower than the top of the uprights, it ought to be obvious whether the kick is good or not. |
I think you're right - they're trying to prevent obvious errors. My take on that is that they were concerned with not having the right camera angle to prove a ball was within the width of, but well above, the uprights. If an official misses a call that a ball was under or over a crossbar or in or out of an upright, almost any replay angle will confirm that.
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