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Anyone have an opinion on this legendary oil-man that has laid out his plan to cut our overseas dependency and to keep our dollars in the U.S.?
http://www.pickensplan.com/
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Personally, I think that wind power can be a part of the solution to our energy problems, alongside increased nuclear energy, biofuels, conservation, and even drilling and developing the oil shale reserves, and fuel cell technology.
We've created a situation for ourselves where our dependence on foreign oil has put us at the mercy of foreign producers, many of whom would delight in seeing us brought low by high oil prices. I'd love to see us become self sufficient in this area, so that our foreign policy can be based on the merits of situations rather than our oil needs.
The reservation that I have about Pickens approach is that he is advocating us plunging headlong into wind technology, and he personally is heavily invested in wind technology and prepared to go further. Is this based on his own philanthropic vision of our nation's future, or on greed? I certainly don't know.
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He obviously knows more about this than most of us and I have to say I'm in favor of anyone that's willing to do some creative problem solving when it comes to this country's future energy needs.
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Pickens said we can't drill our way out of this, and he is certainly right, but drilling can be part of the solution. The only real certainty in this is that the politicians will never be able to work out a useful plan for us. If we are to get out of this it will be creative entrepeneurs such as Pickens who get us out.
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The man comes across as being genuine, shelling out his own dollars with pro-active measures to get us out of a national crisis thats hurting us all. Hopefully the politician can take a clue and follow suit.. Hopefully!
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| bamanaf wrote: | The man comes across as being genuine, shelling out his own dollars with pro-active measures to get us out of a national crisis thats hurting us all. Hopefully the politician can take a clue and follow suit.. Hopefully!
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He strikes me as genuine. I believe he's reached the point in his life where's he's trying to make a difference. He's a noted philanthropist, having donated well over a half billion to various charities. I believe he is also the primary supporter of Oklahoma State athletics. I think his desire to bring investment to a part of America with disappearing opportunities (and population) is worthy.
The website is short on specifics, and I'm not well versed on long-range natural gas transport to understand costs and benefits. I've been involved a bit with some wind proposals, and viewshed and bird strike rates are aesthetic and environmental issues in scenic areas. If you're talking wind farms on the expanse of the Great Plans, I guess that it may not be on same issue level of importance.
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| Quote: | | The reservation that I have about Pickens approach is that he is advocating us plunging headlong into wind technology, |
Whatever the solution is, diving headlong should be the approach, vice waiting.
| Quote: | | and he personally is heavily invested in wind technology and prepared to go further. Is this based on his own philanthropic vision of our nation's future, or on greed? |
I hope its greed. He is smart and investing his money means he believes it will work. What would concern me is if he DIDN'T invest heavily in it.
His web site cites a map what shows that the US is uniquely positioned for wind. In a global economy we have to luxury of using what we have. Consider Saudi Arabia. They have sand, oil, and not much else. So the Saudi's use the oil to get what they don't have. Again, we have wind, so....
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It appears Mr. Pickens has a plan to be put in action. I am willing to listen and see if he can make something work. One thing I do know for sure is he has more going for him than all the dingbats in Washington.
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| alabama mike wrote: | | It appears Mr. Pickens has a plan to be put in action. I am willing to listen and see if he can make something work. One thing I do know for sure is he has more going for him than all the dingbats in Washington. |
What he said. If we wait on the politicians we'll never get anything done. They would spend endless amounts of time deciding what they weren't going to do, and then emerge with something politically correct, but totally useless.
I saw an article recently indicating that Texas is prepared to invest in a big way in the infrastructure to transmit wind generated electricity. The Texas panhandle area certainly has plenty of the raw material.
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The U.S. Government can and should take the initiative to partner with philantrophist such as Pickens and others that are concerned, motivated and at the forefront of alternatives. A collaborative effort involving government and private citizens is what its going to take to defeat this energy crisis we've created for ourselves.
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