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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 7:53 am    Post subject: Freddie Roach Update Reply with quote
Freddie has been hired by Coach Saban as a strength and conditioning coach and to assist with linebackers.
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 9:00 am    Post subject: Re: Freddie Roach Update Reply with quote
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Freddie has been hired by Coach Saban as a strength and conditioning coach and to assist with linebackers.


Link?

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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
No link. Consider this the link.
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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No link. Consider this the link.


Consider this blown off. Let me guys, CNS realized that the weight room always has room for one more dumbbell?

As for the LBs, same line as above, only the need was for a tackling dummy, Right?
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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crimsnkentucky wrote:
No link. Consider this the link.


Consider this blown off. Let me guys, CNS realized that the weight room always has room for one more dumbbell?

As for the LBs, same line as above, only the need was for a tackling dummy, Right?


What the....? trust me CK has no need to lie.
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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LBS wrote:
crimsnkentucky wrote:
No link. Consider this the link.


Consider this blown off. Let me guys, CNS realized that the weight room always has room for one more dumbbell?

As for the LBs, same line as above, only the need was for a tackling dummy, Right?


What the....? trust me CK has no need to lie.


Help us understand the logic in such a move?
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I'm sorry I was just trying to share some information. It's not my place to speak for Coach Saban, but I do think Freddie brings value to the team. If you have to have a link this is the closest I have. It is an interview I did with last month. He discusses it indirectly at the beginning of the show.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/RollCrimsonTide/2008/04/07/The-Talk-of-Champions

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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
FWIW, RT, I've heard the same thing.

As to why, I'd offer the notion why not? Having another coach in the weight room working with linebackers (especially considering the # of new ones we'll have arriving on campus) can only be a good thing.

I'm not really surprised we haven't seen a formal announcement about this. It's a step above being hired as a GA, but a step below the roles a few other coaches in the program have.
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Guys if crimsnkentucky says it, you can trust him. He has top quality connections, most of which are the players themselves. He isn't someone who needs a link to make his statements credible.
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I do not see why this is a bad move at all.

No link needed for me. Trust CnK and Saban Wink

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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
LBS wrote:
crimsnkentucky wrote:
No link. Consider this the link.


Consider this blown off. Let me guys, CNS realized that the weight room always has room for one more dumbbell?

As for the LBs, same line as above, only the need was for a tackling dummy, Right?


Gentlemen,
Please allow me to right my wrongs.

First, I apologize to Freddie Roach. Call it a brain-fart, but when I read CK's mentioning of "Freddie Roach" immediately someone else came to mind, and my "dumbbell" and "dummy" comments were directed at that individual, NOT AT FREDDIE.

As for me dismissing CK's comment, I still feel the same. That has nothing to do with CK, but has everything to do with never trusting a single-source report. This policy is a bedrock of sound media reporting, and until there are multiple sources, I consider these matters rumors. True, all current facts began as single-source reports, but I am prepared to wait. If you need a classic examples, recall the Dewey Beats Truman report on the front page of the Chicago Daily Tribune or the rush crown Gore President in 2000. In both cases one was better for holding acceptance of the word coming down. -- My disregarding of CK's comment is not a comment about CK. CK's reputation and validity to this sight can neither be helped or hurt by LBS. I want CK to continue doing what CK does.
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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
LBS wrote:
LBS wrote:
crimsnkentucky wrote:
No link. Consider this the link.


Consider this blown off. Let me guys, CNS realized that the weight room always has room for one more dumbbell?

As for the LBs, same line as above, only the need was for a tackling dummy, Right?


Gentlemen,
Please allow me to right my wrongs.

First, I apologize to Freddie Roach. Call it a brain-fart, but when I read CK's mentioning of "Freddie Roach" immediately someone else came to mind, and my "dumbbell" and "dummy" comments were directed at that individual, NOT AT FREDDIE.

As for me dismissing CK's comment, I still feel the same. That has nothing to do with CK, but has everything to do with never trusting a single-source report. This policy is a bedrock of sound media reporting, and until there are multiple sources, I consider these matters rumors. True, all current facts began as single-source reports, but I am prepared to wait. If you need a classic examples, recall the Dewey Beats Truman report on the front page of the Chicago Daily Tribune or the rush crown Gore President in 2000. In both cases one was better for holding acceptance of the word coming down. -- My disregarding of CK's comment is not a comment about CK. CK's reputation and validity to this sight can neither be helped or hurt by LBS. I want CK to continue doing what CK does.


Talking about yourself in the 3rd person now, are we?!? Laughing

FWIW, I suspect that CnK got his verification of the story directly from Roach.

One other thing. This story broke, or first hit the public eyes (if you call it that) back during the coaches clinic when Freddie was very involved in and around the proceedings. There was enough reason at that time to suspect there may be conversations happening between Saban and Freddie at that time.
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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 7:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
TerryP wrote:
LBS wrote:
LBS wrote:
crimsnkentucky wrote:
No link. Consider this the link.


Consider this blown off. Let me guys, CNS realized that the weight room always has room for one more dumbbell?

As for the LBs, same line as above, only the need was for a tackling dummy, Right?


Gentlemen,
Please allow me to right my wrongs.

First, I apologize to Freddie Roach. Call it a brain-fart, but when I read CK's mentioning of "Freddie Roach" immediately someone else came to mind, and my "dumbbell" and "dummy" comments were directed at that individual, NOT AT FREDDIE.

As for me dismissing CK's comment, I still feel the same. That has nothing to do with CK, but has everything to do with never trusting a single-source report. This policy is a bedrock of sound media reporting, and until there are multiple sources, I consider these matters rumors. True, all current facts began as single-source reports, but I am prepared to wait. If you need a classic examples, recall the Dewey Beats Truman report on the front page of the Chicago Daily Tribune or the rush crown Gore President in 2000. In both cases one was better for holding acceptance of the word coming down. -- My disregarding of CK's comment is not a comment about CK. CK's reputation and validity to this sight can neither be helped or hurt by LBS. I want CK to continue doing what CK does.


Talking about yourself in the 3rd person now, are we?!? Laughing

FWIW, I suspect that CnK got his verification of the story directly from Roach.

One other thing. This story broke, or first hit the public eyes (if you call it that) back during the coaches clinic when Freddie was very involved in and around the proceedings. There was enough reason at that time to suspect there may be conversations happening between Saban and Freddie at that time.


I think CnK talked Freddie directly Smile straight from the horses mouth..so to speak.

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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I haven't asked CnK if that was the case. But, considering Freddie was a part of his tailgate during the A-day festivities and he's been a guest in the last 5-6 on "Talk of Champions" it's a safe assumption he just picked up the phone and asked. It's not difficult and by far it isn't close to being bothersome to ex-players, players and coaches to have friendships with people that support the program.
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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I haven't asked CnK if that was the case. But, considering Freddie was a part of his tailgate during the A-day festivities and he's been a guest in the last 5-6 on "Talk of Champions" it's a safe assumption he just picked up the phone and asked. It's not difficult and by far it isn't close to being bothersome to ex-players, players and coaches to have friendships with people that support the program.


Basically what I have read and what I was saying Smile

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